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Rick Reilly’s Jimmer Fredette Hatchet Piece

March 25, 2011

Get ready for Reilly to irrationally bash Jimmer Fredette for about 800 words. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

NEW ORLEANS — So that’s the end of Jimmermania. Saw it for myself. Caught the closing act. Not impressed.

Really? Not impressed by Jimmer? Not by this?

Thanks to one of the worst performances of Jimmer Fredette’s frabulous career — and a set of teammates who looked like pizza delivery guys — the BYU star took a hard fall in the Big Easy. BYU was bumped out of the Sweet Sixteen on Thursday, losing to Florida in a lopsided overtime, 83-74.

You can take off those “Romney-Fredette in 2012″ T-shirts now.

Cause they’re both Mormons! Get it? Mormons!

C’mon Rick, Romney would totally be the vice president in this situation anyway.

Except for a stretch in the middle, when he was brilliant, Fredette was brutal.

Except for when he was freaking awesome, he wasn’t freaking awesome. See? He sucks.

Yes, he scored 32 points, but he took 29 shots to do it. He seemed to be wearing a blindfold from the 3-point arc — 3-for-15. Plus, he committed six turnovers and wandered aimlessly through the lane on defense like Moses in the desert. I’ve seen dead people play better defense. At least they occasionally trip people.

Guh. The dude has carried this team for what, two years now? He can’t have a perfect game every night. I’m just trying to wrap my head around exactly why Reilly is being so acidic towards the kid.

Sounds like he’s just being the typical, everybody-loves-the-kid-so-I’m-going-to-say-he-sucks guy…even if I have to baselessly rip on a kid.

Plus, you know, he was basically a one man show…and he still put up 32 points against a very good Florida team that was basically just playing defense against him. He got knocked around, double-teamed, and really had no one to pass to. Yeah, he wore down, but putting up 32 in that situation is pretty good.

If his last college game is what he’s bringing to the NBA, then I’d say, in five years, he’s got a really good chance to be your Provo area Isuzu dealer.

Why on earth would anyone think that Jimmer would play like this (one of his worst games) for the remainder of his basketball career when he’s played great the rest of the time? Sure, his skills probably won’t translate as well in the NBA, but he’s a big guy and he can shoot the lights out. He’ll be all right.

And if he can take his depleted team to OT against Florida in his worst college game ever, then that’s pretty good.

You’re being petty, Rick, and not very artfully so.

Great kid, though. Polite, smart (good chess player, whiz at Sudoku), studies his Bible in hotel rooms. Maybe that was the problem. Fredette and the largely Mormon BYU Nation should’ve never been made to come to New Orleans. You can sin just by osmosis here.

Har har har. Musta been that there goofy religion that made ‘ol Jimmer suck so bad.

You should have seen some of them on Bourbon Street, the freshly scrubbed Cougars fans, horrified to find themselves among the window strippers, the hurricane chuggers and the bead catchers.

I’m not sure why we’re making fun of people for being uncomfortable around things they consider sinful. Anybody else know why? I can’t figure it out.

Seriously, if you believe your soul will damaged by certain things, many of which are in New Orleans (booze, sex, gambling), wouldn’t you be cautious, too? And for the record, it’s not just Mormons who consider drunkeness, pornography, and gambling sins, so…

Then again, some of the comparisons BYU fans were making about The Jimmer this week made you think they deserved it.

“He’s a little Maravich,” a guy in a BYU shirt told me.

No! No, he isn’t! He’s not within a mile of Mardi Gras floats of Maravich. Maravich could get his shot off from the bottom of a swimming pool. He could get 40 in handcuffs. He averaged 44 points a game in college (to Fredette’s 28 this season) and that’s without the 3-point shot. With it, studies of his game film have shown, he would have averaged over 55.

Yeah, Maravich was one of the best ever. Jimmer’s not. But he’s not road kill either.

“He’s better than Danny Ainge was,” a lady in a Cougars sweatshirt told me.

No! No, he isn’t! Ainge was Danny Clutch (remember his Sweet 16 drive in 1981) Fredette didn’t have a single game-winning shot all year. Against Florida, he didn’t score a single point in the game’s final eight minutes, or, for that matter, the first 13.

Jimmer’s better than Danny Ainge, clutch or no, he’s better than Danny Ainge.

“I know from just watching him he’s going to be a great NBA player,” Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Russell Westbrook said.

No! No, he isn’t!

Because Rick Reilly, professional asshole, says so! And don’t you forget it you sniveling little Mormons!

Seriously, Rick. Calm down. Jimmer’s not going to be the best ever. He might not even be a perennial all-star in the NBA, but he’s a very good basketball player, who made highlight reel shots, and scored more points in bunches than anyone in a long time. And people liked that. It was fun. It was exciting. And he was a good kid.

Leave it to Reilly though to drape the world’s biggest wet blanket over us all, moments after a big loss.

Don’t get me wrong. The Jimmer will make a modest living in the NBA. When he gets hot, he can drain them from the hotel coffee shop. He splits the double team as well as anybody in the league right now and he has a whole Santa bag of off-balance scoop shots with either hand. But until he shows more interest in defense than a blind man has in rainbows, he’s going to spend most of his NBA life sitting on padded folding chairs.

How many people play defense in the NBA? Six? Seven? Somewhere around there.

To his credit, he’ll have more help in the NBA than he had this season at BYU. His best rebounder, Brandon Davies, was thrown off the team for violating BYU’s no-booze, no-sex, no-caffeine honor code, which meant it was pretty much Jimmer or nothing against the tall trees of Florida. He never came out once in the first 44 minutes and had to fire up shots through the tiniest cracks of light allowed to him by the Gators. He wore out. He fired up two 3s from at least six feet behind the arc in the overtime and missed them both, badly. Then again, he had a cut in his chin that looked like something George Foreman had left and his calf was killing him. But when his teammates really needed him, at the end of regulation, on defense, Jimmer really hit the dimmer.

You just explained why Jimmer was shot. Dude had played basically every minute of ever game for a few weeks. He was pretty much the only guy on the team. He carried them through the end of the season and first couple rounds of the tourney. But, yeah, dude’s a quitter. Not there for his teammates when they need him.

Florida missed a trey with 24 seconds to go and Fredette’s man, Erving Walker, who stands only 5-6, beat him to the long rebound. It wasn’t hard. Fredette was nowhere to be found. I’m not even sure Fredette knew who his man was the entire night. Florida wound up with a reset and the last shot.

People get beat to rebounds. Especially exhausted guys. Especially when a lightning fast little guy is running after it.

“If we’d have gotten it, we’d have had about eight seconds left differential,” Fredette said. “I’d have had the ball in my hands at the end.”

Note to Jimmer: To get the ball, one must occasionally check one’s man and/or box said man out. One did neither.

Give the kid a break, dude. Why all the vitriol? What could Jimmer possibly have done to elicit this reaction from Reilly? I’m curious. The guy turned in one of the greatest college basketball seasons in recent memory. He was the team. And he finally wore out. Had a bad game. It happens. It doesn’t mean he’s a lazy piece of crap who isn’t there for his team and can’t be bothered to play defense.

What an utter hatchet job this article is.

“The weird thing is, [his defense] has gotten progressively worse over the year,” says Fredette’s own teammate, Nick Martineau. “From the start, he’s never really been accountable to it, but it’s just gotten looser as the year’s gone on. But he can play defense. He really can. He’ll definitely tighten it up for the NBA.”

He’d better.

“I just want to take a couple weeks off and then start getting ready to try to make an NBA team,” said the man who probably will be voted about five player of the year awards. “That’s my dream, to make an NBA team.”

Fine. That he can do. But you think this barely 6-2 kid with no speed and YMCA hops can be the next Maravich or Ainge or Westbrook?

Jimmer might not pan out at all in the NBA, but then again he might. I happen to think he’ll be a very solid player. And there is ALWAYS a spot for a guy who can shoot like he can. He’s physical. And as Rick himself said, he has an uncanny ability to break a double team. That’s enough right there.

Fredette about it.

Maybe Reilly just faked all this anger so he could use the world’s worst pun.

I really don’t get it. Reilly just decided to attack the poor kid, for really no apparent reason. Because a BYU said he’s a little Maravich? Because he’s Mormon? Because Reilly bet on him? Who knows why, but it’s an odd hatchet job by an over the hill hack on a guy who just turned in a fantastic college season. And if he pans out (or doesn’t) in the NBA, let’s leave that for later.

No need to rake the kid over the coals for nothing, especially now when we should be remembering his great college career.

 

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102 Comments leave one →
  1. Jake permalink
    March 25, 2011 10:51 pm

    Great response, I thought the same things as I read it. Glad to see someone called Reilly out on that one.

  2. Brig permalink
    March 26, 2011 12:59 am

    I would really like to see Reilly punished or even fired for this. How can we make this happen? He won’t even allow comments on his POS article, so I sent him 4 emails to tell him what I thought. What a coward.

  3. Jesse Batch permalink
    March 26, 2011 1:17 am

    Reilly deserves to be fired!! Tasteless attack on a genuinely good guy and a magnificent college basketball player. Send ESPN your comments and get Reilly out. https://r.espn.go.com/members/contact/index

    • Rick permalink
      March 28, 2011 12:46 pm

      I was just getting on to leave the same comment. I sent my comments to ESPN last night. I encourage everyone to also write professional responses to make it tough for ESPN to ignore the point.

  4. Richard Apollo Fuhriman permalink
    March 26, 2011 1:46 am

    He should be fired for his religous bigotry. Period. No place for that.

    His attacks on a young kid–terrible, over the top. But I think it is from some irrational hatred of Mormons. Why bring the kid’s religion into this-unless he has a deep-seated hatred/phobia of Mormons–or he thinks that attacking them is still ok?

    Either way, he is about to get jimmered by the state of Utah.

  5. DAVE permalink
    March 26, 2011 2:18 am

    Love it. This is going viral.

    Andy Katz is a class act. Like Jimmer or not that article was lazy and way off.

  6. Hoost permalink
    March 26, 2011 2:20 am

    A 36″ vertical is YMCA hops? Anyone else tired of the “white american kids can’t possibly be athletic” goggles people like Reilly wear.

    No defensive ability? Dave Rice even said himself that Jimmer’s lower intensity on defense was deliberate as part of BYU’s strategy for utilizing his scoring strength. And even so he still averaged more than a steal per game.

    This guy is a BCS conference lover and can’t stand that a small town kid like Jimmer didn’t get picked up by any of the teams putting cash in his pocket.

  7. Matt permalink
    March 26, 2011 2:23 am

    I also wrote a letter to Reilly about this article. The article felt like he had waited all year to write some piece that justified a hidden disagreement with all the Jimmer press that had happened this season. The thing that especially surprised me is that Reilly is usually the guy who writes all the feel-good articles that people want to hear about. He really pulled a Jekyll and Hyde on this piece and really looked like a bitter, bitter person with a grudge that needed to be aired.
    Oh, and anyone who wants to say that Jimmer isn’t clutch or didn’t make a game-winning shot should look up the last ten seconds of the BYU-Saint Mary’s game this year. That 3 was huge. That and any of a number of huge shots he made to break any of the previously tight games wide open (or ice games like that Wyoming game on the road with a few seconds left). Reilly really was a bitter soul on this one.

  8. Nick permalink
    March 26, 2011 6:10 am

    Yeah, I totally agree with the above comments and deliberately searched out a fire Reilly website because of this biased and obviously pre-planned article. I agree, I bet this was partially written since the first time someone attached Jimmer and Mormon.

  9. Tyler D. permalink
    March 26, 2011 6:39 am

    Reilly has a disdain for BYU in general, see the following link:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2001/11/07/life_of_reilly/

    Here is what I wrote to Reilly:
    “No game-winning shots? Try St. Mary’s on Nov. 27th,, byu down by one, he hit the game-winning three pointer with 10 seconds left. Game-winners aren’t always buzzer-beaters. And that was one night after he drove the lane in 2OT, drew three defenders and dished to an open teammate for the buzzer-beater game-winner. Clutch players aren’t measured only by the ability to hit last-second shots to win games- and Jimemr CLEARLY demonstrated his ability to play in the clutch throughout the season.

    You clearly have only watched jimmer once, and unfortunately for you and Jimmer and everyone else, he did not play well and forced shots (hard to argue when his teammates were off as well). It is sad that you have so little good to say about the NCAA Player of the Year- obviously just trying to sound different than all the other people who actually follow the sport…

    Who knows what he’ll do in the NBA- no one ever confused Steve Kerr or Steve Nash as lock-down defenders. Fredette is 4th all-time in steals at BYU- not shabby.

    Lastly, ESPN needs to avoid sending a columnist to cover a college program that said columnist clearly has disdain for (your Nov 2001 BYU article is as inaccurate as it is illogical.)

    Stick to writing humor columns…”

  10. thomas permalink
    March 26, 2011 7:47 am

    who exactly is this Brad Writing guy anyway. all he did is disagree with reilly. didn’t really give any strong argument as to why riles was wrong. just a juvenile nickname, and a twisting of reilly’s words. he didn’t say that jimmer is a worthless piece of crap. he just said that he’s not all that and a bag of chips. he is a good shooter who has hit his ceiling. he has maxed out his physical talents and has excelled in a mid major conference. by the way, steve kerr is a good player to compare his outlook to. a guy that can shoot the 3, but doesn’t have to start and guard anyone for any length of time.

  11. Ant-Reilly permalink
    March 26, 2011 12:06 pm

    Wait, Mormons don’t like displaying women in windows like butcher meat or drinking until pass out and drown in your own vomit? Yep, they’re the crazy ones, Reilly.

  12. Mike permalink
    March 26, 2011 12:37 pm

    Look, I am not Mormon, but the religious intolerance displayed (and it is there whether he blatantly stated it or not) in Reilly’s article on a national site is absolutely atrocious and uncalled for. It seems like the utmost hypocrisy that many of the same people who vehemently stress accepting different lifestyles amongts citizens are many time the ones who viciously attack well meaning people who simply have their own belief system. It was disgusting when all the negative comment came out attacking BYU about Davies, and it is no less ridiculous in the “subtle” way Reilly broaches it. Aside from that his view on Jimmer is nothing short of asinine as he goes off a few “superfan” comments and ONE game. Who know how he’ll do….but I’m pretty sure if Jeff Hornacek/Ainge can be VERY significant players in the NBA then Jimmer has the ability as well. For having YMCA hops and no speed…he sure seems to elevate on his jumper better than most and consistently burn by more “athletic” types on fastbreaks and drives. That article was unbelievable….and I can’t believe that is the product of one of ESPN’s top “journalists”.

    • Jim Palmer permalink
      March 27, 2011 10:10 pm

      I am with you. I am not a Mormon, not a BYU fan, but I am a person of faith. When I want to hear commentary on faith I will not be looking to some moron hack on ESPN. He has every right to speak his mind on religion but he needs to do it in an appropriate venue. People don’t go to ESPN to learn about serious life choices – hell, the people I know don’t even go there for sports news anymore.

  13. Bryce permalink
    March 26, 2011 2:03 pm

    It is a shame that Rick Reilly has the title of a “sports”writer, He really offers nothing more than a weak attempt at comedy. Can’t you just picture him, so excited as Florida took command and Fredette kept missing. “Oh finally my chance to bash the Jimmermania and take a stance about the guy everyone loves”. It was inevitable for BYU to lose their last game, and it was inevitable that in the process Jimmer would go down firing; He only cared about winning. Rick was probably just mad that it didn’t happen against Wofford or Gonzaga. He offers nothing in his writing about sports. This article would only be funny to 19-21 year old undergrads sitting around in a drunken stupor, and those who never grow out of that phase. I am not going to argue anything about the NBA with him, it is his opinion and people who know basketball think Jimmer will be just fine. I just want to know what the hell ESPN is posting this on their website. It is an embarrassing article, filled with derogatory comments and religious bigotry; once again funny if you have the maturity level of a your typical “frat-guy”. National Sportswriting awards…..really? Pathetic.

  14. Jeremy permalink
    March 26, 2011 2:59 pm

    Despicable journalism! ESPN should be held responsible and do the right thing – fire this idiot!

  15. Dan permalink
    March 26, 2011 3:57 pm

    The Rick Reilly piece is ironic. BYU left the Mountain West and secured a great deal with ESPN to cover them. BYU fans the world over loved ESPN…until Rick’s article.

    Way to shoot your organization in the foot Rick. In one brief moment of bigoted, self-aggrandizement, you poisoned the carefully crafted goodwill ESPN had generated with BYU’s fans. You think that Jimmer isn’t worth the hype? You’re entitled to your opinion, but it shows you haven’t watched many of his games. You bash a religion of over 13 million people though, and you don’t deserve to continue getting your paycheck.

  16. Johnny B. permalink
    March 26, 2011 4:41 pm

    This article was the reason i found this site. after i read this terrible, inexplicable crap i searched on google ‘rick reilly sucks’, sure that someone else in the world would have to think that rick reilly does indeed suck. I am a happier person now that i know im not alone. keep up the good work

  17. Bryce permalink
    March 26, 2011 4:42 pm

    Yes my second comment on this site: Rick attacked the wrong guy; did you all see Nolan Smith’s stat line in their lopsided loss to Arizona; here we go:
    Nolan Smith: 3-14 from field; 8 pts; 6 TO, 2 assists; Where was the nolan smith article???? what excuse does he have. He plays with a preseason all american and a guy who was hurt all year and scored 28 pts in his 3rd game back.

    Other Notables: In their last game (which they all lost in tournament)
    JJ Reddick (who yes is successful in the NBA): 3 -18 from field; 11 pts; 6 TO; 1 assist
    Steph Curry (successful in NBA): 11-27 from field; 26 pts; 6 TO; 5 assists
    Derrick rose (NBA MVP this year) 7-17 from field; 18 pts; 5 TO; 8 assists

    Only one team ends the year with a win (excluding the pathetic NIT) Everyone listed above were fantastic college players and will be (are) great in pros. what an uneducated article

    • Apollo permalink
      March 29, 2011 4:43 pm

      Research? Stats? You don’t expect ESPN to actually do research do you? But to you I say: nice job.

  18. Dan permalink
    March 26, 2011 5:20 pm

    Wah. So someone doesn’t like Jimmer. Get over it. Not everyone is going to worship the ground the guy walks on. He’s an above average basketball player. He won’t be the first, and he won’t be the last. In a simliar strain, this isn’t the first and won’t be the last time Reilly rips on someone. He does it all the time. I’m Mormon. I’ll be the first to admit that a Mormon walking down Boubon street is an odd sight to behold. I’m not offended by Reilly’s comments. Let it be water off of the back. Jimmermania has been pretty overblown. But that’s how a good number of things are seen by some BYU fans. Reilly won’t be fired for a number of reasons, the simplest being that his stories generate interest, good or bad. Interest = money for ESPN. I’m telling you right now that’s all ESPN cares about. Here’s an idea, if you don’t like Reilly, don’t read his stories. There are plenty of other stories that will make you feel good about yourself and your love of Jimmer. Continue to read those to get the warm fuzzies that you have inside. The problem with a response like yours is that you continue to feed the trolls. You want the trolls to go away…? Ignore them.

    • Mike permalink
      March 26, 2011 7:45 pm

      Wah. So some people don’t like Reilly. Get over it. You can get off your soap box now….I’m pretty sure the majority of the commentators now how the “system” works with online journalism and generating interest. That’s fine if you weren’t offended…others were…and the jabs can be felt by much more than the Mormon population.

      I don’t know about the rest, but I never read Reilly. His freshmen-level humor drivel is a disgrace in comparison to the craft that guys like George Plimpton made phenomenal and others like Mike Wilbon and others try to continue. I saw a column headline by his face on ESPN that made me look twice and I couldn’t look away. It was like Dan Uggla imploding at the all-star game several years ago….I had to watch even though it was a mess. It is one thing to disagree with someone’s writing….it’s another to be offered a steaming pile of dog crap when based on the awards and the company, it should be a porterhouse.

    • Jim Palmer permalink
      March 27, 2011 10:14 pm

      I will bet you are not a Mormon. The Bourbon Street comment aside, if you were a person of ANY faith you would have been offended by the comment about reading the Bible in the hotel room. I think you are the troll here.

      • Dan permalink
        March 28, 2011 1:24 am

        When you assume things, you really just make an ass out of yourself. I choose not to be offened by others stupidity.

      • Jason permalink
        March 28, 2011 1:54 am

        Yeah obviously Dan here is mormon and calls people an a#%. Lots of mormons talk like that… (for Dan’s sake, this is sarcasm)

      • Dan permalink
        April 3, 2011 12:28 am

        Jason, I get it. Please don’t tell me how Mormons are and aren’t supposed to act. I get the sarcasm. And thanks for pointing out that I must be a bad Mormon if I swear. Thanks for judging me, glad to know that you’re in a position to do so. Don’t you worry, I’ll talk to it about my Bishop later. My point was to be a troll. I grow weary of the sanctimonious attitudes that others have. Obviously, the subtly of this fact was lost on you. I live on the edge, make my own rules. Never once did I say I agreed with Reilly. I just am tired of the fact that if anyone dears to criticize Jimmer, every BYU fan gets up in arms about it. Grow a pair. I don’t live my life to please people. I don’t care if you like me. Most, if not all, of the comments here are perfect examples of why I can’t stand BYU fans.

  19. Giorgio Michello permalink
    March 26, 2011 5:57 pm

    “If his last college game is what he’s bringing to the NBA, then I’d say, in five years, he’s got a really good chance to be your Provo area Isuzu dealer. ”

    Isuzu hasn’t technically sold passenger cars in the US for over two years. Practically, it’s been even longer than that. That’s how out of touch this cretinous fossil is. The rest of the article is merely a poorly-written exercise in the vilification of a religion and a truly inexplicable and hateful attack on an individual.

    Oh yeah, then there’s this–”But until he shows more interest in defense than a blind man has in rainbows” Ho-ho-ho, that’s hilarious!!!!! I’m assuming he means said sightless person wouldn’t be interested in rainbows because they can’t see rainbows. If that’s the case, dickface, why would a blind man be interested in ANYTHING? They can’t see anything , right? Rielly is not only a terrible writer, he’s a terrible THINKER.

    Love the site, BTW.

    • Matt permalink
      March 29, 2011 11:11 pm

      Imagine that I just clicked Like to this comment.

      • Krew permalink
        March 31, 2011 3:13 am

        Me too.

  20. Weilenmann permalink
    March 26, 2011 8:10 pm

    Rick Reilly needs to be forced into retirment and put into a Geriatric Home so all the Shit that he spews ends up in his diaper and not on the internet for Hapless sports fans to read!!!!!!

  21. BBfan permalink
    March 26, 2011 9:42 pm

    I hope you feel better now Rick. You have shown your true character through your writing…what a shame.

  22. Jacob Berry permalink
    March 26, 2011 9:58 pm

    I hope 10 years from now I find Rick Reilly working at Jimmer’s Isuzu Dealership in Provo. Jimmer is a nice guy, I am sure jimmer would forgive him and give him a job.

  23. Paulie Doubles permalink
    March 27, 2011 7:39 am

    Isn’t there some unwritten rule that you don’t criticize a college players performance? I dunno, but I thought writers are suppose to go after the coaches, not the players. This was pretty low of Reilly

  24. Jim permalink
    March 27, 2011 12:23 pm

    Where is this magical YMCA where dudes have 36″ verticals?

    Let’s compare him to JJ Redick for a second. Redick was offered a $20mm contract by the Bulls which was matched by Orlando. He’s a solid rotation player on a semi-contender. He’s most certainly not selling cars.

    Out of college, Redick probably had slightly better accuracy, but less range on threes than Jimmer. But there is no comparison between Jimmer’s handle and Redick’s. Redicks entire offensive game consists of coming off screens, whereas Jimmer can get to and finish around the hoop.

    As to defense, while Jimmer does lack in lateral quickness, I think the majority of his defensive deficiencies at BYU were the result of him having to carry the entire offensive load for nearly 40 minutes a game and it was strategy for him not to expend too much energy on the defensive end. Plus, if he gets in any kind of foul trouble, game over for BYU.

    Let’s also acknowledge how much Redick has improved his defense and game generally since entering the league—a product of a strong worth ethic than by all accounts Jimmer has in spades.

    Bottom line, he’ll end up somewhere between a homeless man’s and a poor man’s Steph Curry. Good shooter with crazy range, good handle, good passer, defensive liability. He’ll be an average starter on a bad team, or a solid rotation player on a good team.

    • Eric permalink
      March 29, 2011 6:42 am

      Jim,

      Your comment cemented the article. Just rebutting Rick’s insane rant, line for line was good, but what you said makes it all clear.

      No defense? A strategy. Too many fouls, game over BYU. Your whole comment shows good insight and too bad the article didn’t have it in it as well.

      • Apollo permalink
        March 29, 2011 4:52 pm

        Yeah, look at the game at SDSU–when Jimmer got his 4th foul, the entire cougar nation panicked…he convinced Rose to leave him in, he did not foul, he scored lots of points and BYU won. Had he fouled out, probably would not have won that game.

  25. Randy Hardy permalink
    March 27, 2011 2:46 pm

    Wow, I’m glad I found y0ur website. I responded to Rick’s rant personally, but it’s good to know that I’m not the only one that thinks he is an arrogant, Mormon-hating, piece of trash that chooses to demean good, clean college athletes, instead of respecting them. Keep up the good work, you have a new friend.

  26. John permalink
    March 27, 2011 7:18 pm

    A thoughtful responce to a unnecessarily caustic article. I am disappointed in Reilly. I am not a Mormon, have no association with BYU or the player and I was insulted when reading the column !!

  27. Rick permalink
    March 27, 2011 8:58 pm

    Great Commentary! I also can’t wrap my head around why someone would be so bitter as to write an article like this. It would seem that a true sports fan would build up the sport, not sink to petty, bitter, personal, bigoted attacks on a player who just finished a fantastic college career with nothing but class.

  28. John permalink
    March 27, 2011 9:28 pm

    In business, they say those who can’t “do”, teach. In sports, those who can’t play, write. And Reilly sounds like a really bitter, jealous writer.

  29. DAVE permalink
    March 27, 2011 10:30 pm

    Reilly just got Jimmerd!

  30. ALex permalink
    March 27, 2011 11:36 pm

    Thank u so much for making this site! Reily is a clown and an article ripping a player like Jimmer Fredette is a joke. I can’t believe what I thought was a good site in espn.com taints themselves with Reily articles

  31. Maes permalink
    March 28, 2011 9:35 am

    Well, I agree his article wasn’t very well written but some of your counter-arguments as to why Jimmer won’t fail in the NBA are a bit off, ’6 or 7 guys play defense’? That’s just laughably stupid.

  32. Lee permalink
    March 28, 2011 1:00 pm

    Dick, sorry, Rick is just to lazy to do a good job. Most of his article had nothing to do with, or what a “Sports Writer” should write about. So, instead of doing his job, he must of wanted everyone to know how ignorant and bigoted his true self really is. Good work, Rick, but you should be cut form the team!

  33. Adam permalink
    March 28, 2011 3:48 pm

    I’ve never emailed ESPN or any other corporation to complain or compliment about anything. I’m pretty quiet. But this article got me upset, and I sent a response to Rick asking what was his problem with Jimmer? Why did he choose to focus on every wart and nothing else. It’s like Rick Reilly forgot that all players have bad games, and then wrote his article about Jimmer. I reread the article several times to be sure, but all he does is tear down Jimmer. His few compliments seem to be backhanded ones at best. I don’t get it.

  34. Rickhater101 permalink
    March 28, 2011 4:30 pm

    Holy crap what a D-bag! This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Jimmer is not the best defender but he can defend when he needs too. And as far as being slow and not a good athlete I call BS! speed is not everything look at Brandon Roy, not very fast but he is creative and shifty, so is Jimmer. And the boy can jump, just look at how high he get off the ground with the jump shot. If your going to criticize someone at least be smart enough to have real arguments!

  35. Matt H permalink
    March 28, 2011 7:22 pm

    After reading the article written by Mr. Rick Reilly, I wrote the following article back to him via the ESPN website.

    Dear Mr. Rick Reilly,

    I normally like to read your columns because I believe you are a fair journalist and you do good things with your articles that shed positive light on a lot of things. However, I have to disagree with the article you wrote about Jimmer Fredette of BYU. I understand that you are a journalist and you want to attract a crowd to your articles (which is why you work with ESPN), but some of the things mentioned in the article, in my personal opinion, are off.

    Poking fun at BYU’s Honor Code needs to be put to rest. Yes, BYU has rules that the outside world may think is extreme. But EVERY student that attends that university signs an agreement stating that they will live the Honor Code. Most live it, some do not, that’s just the way it is. It’s no different for any other religion: there are those who live it and those who fail to live up to the expectations. Making light of the principles that the students at the university agreed to live by is not a classy move, especially in a world where we hear daily reports of athletes getting charged with possession of drugs, guns, and getting caught up in prostitution. I thought for sure that you of all people might have realized that the Honor Code would be beneficial to these players who, whether they like it or not, are role models. Also, attacking the faith of the LDS (Mormon) Church is very low indeed for you as a journalist. We live in a world filled with hatred and intolerance. We are told to accept people as they are, but then an article like this comes out as a hard slap back to reality that the reason we have intolerance in the first place is because of journalists who write mis-informed articles like the one you just did Mr. Reilly. You are not the only reason, but one of many various reasons as to why religious intolerance still exists today. If you don’t like the LDS (Mormon) Church, that’s fine since it is your opinion. But bringing down those people who try to live their religion and get away from the filth and disgust in this world through a public medium makes you absolutely no better than the filth and disgust that those BYU fans were exposed to walking down Bourbon Street.

    Secondly, back to Jimmer now, when an NBA player of high caliber (Russell Westbrook, and you can’t deny that he is a star) says that he is going to be good, especially since Westbrook played against Jimmer in the USA Basketball trials, then it means that if Jimmer continues to work hard, he will be good. Yes, Jimmer isnt as interested in defense as other college players are, but not a whole lot of NBA players are interested in it either. Don’t you find it interesting that the NBA competition committee a few years ago made it easier for the offense to score (hand-checks up top as one example)? The main reasoning: These guys don’t play a whole lot of defense anyways, we need to up the scoring to make the game a lot faster and more attractive to our worldwide audience, so lets change the rules. Back on point now: unless you personally have played against Jimmer and you are an NBA player Mr. Reilly, then you really cannot say that he is not going to be good or not. Because you simply don’t know.

    Thirdly, if you were Jimmer, had the attention of the nation, had every single defensive plan ever drawn up during the season for 30+ games aimed specifically to stop you and you alone, wouldn’t you be just a LITTLE bit tired and maybe have an off game from having to work so hard to help your team? If this was your first time watching Jimmer, then I will apologize for him because he was not at his best. He was tired. He was beat up. He just couldn’t get the ball to go in the hole. It happens. We are all human. How many game winning shots has LeBron made in his career? One to be exact (vs. Golden State last year). Let’s not mention how many LeBron has missed this year alone for argument’s sake. Jordan missed some in his career. Everyone has missed shots. One game does not determine your legacy. Your actions on and off the court do. If you could have watched Jimmer throughout the whole season, you would see how well he can do other things besides score the ball. In the situation in the overtime against Florida, who would you have wanted to have the ball? Be honest – would it be Logan Magnusson? Jackson Emery? Charles Abouo? Or Jimmer Fredette? I guarantee you that you would want Jimmer to have the ball. And I am sure that Coach Dave Rose and all of Jimmer’s teammates would have wanted it the same way. You go to your best player. How many times did you see Jordan defer to Scottie Pippen? Or Bill Cartwright? Rarely, if ever. The stars want the ball in clutch time and so do their coaches. So for Jimmer to miss shots which he has made in the regular season before and for you to analyze it as being ill-timed is inaccurate. I’m pretty sure that you never wrote an article about Stephen Curry when he and his Davidson Wildcats made their NCAA tourney run a few years ago. Stephen Curry played the exact same way that Jimmer did, but I don’t see anyone knocking on him.

    You mentioned that Jimmer didn’t have any game-winning shots all year. Here is the reason why: Out of the 37 games BYU played, they won 32 of them. And most of those were by larger margins, which means Jimmer didnt have to shoot a game winner. In fact, if you go watch the Saint Mary’s game, BYU is down 2 with seconds left and Jimmer DRILLS a 3-pointer to give BYU the lead in that game which they ended up winning by one point. So that is a game-winner right there, it doesnt have to be a buzzer beater to count. The 5 losses they had came by 7 or more points, which means he wasn’t in a situation to hit game winning shots. So that fact about your article is inaccurate as well. So what if Jimmer took 29 shots to get 32 points? Maybe Coach Rose wants his players to play to their strengths. And if he has said “Jimmer, go shoot the ball because that is what you do best”, then Mr. Reilly, you should re-think your statements because you are now saying that you are smarter than Coach Rose and that Jimmer should not shoot as much and spend more time playing defense and deferring to his teammates. The fact that Jimmer has “one of the worst performances of his career” and STILL scored 32 points on a horrible shooting night has got to attest to something of his abilities. You can’t deny that, and if you do, you are either seriously biased against him because of the ONE game you saw or you just flat out dont know basketball. And honestly Mr. Reilly, I know that you know just a little bit about basketball, so I know its not the latter argument.

    Jimmer passed the ball in the games he played in. Does it always have to lead to an assist for him to get some credit for passing the ball? Nope! Maybe you didn’t watch the first half, but Jimmer passed the ball in those 13 minutes where he didn’t score. And his teammates made their shots. What more do you have to ask of a kid who plays his heart out everytime he is on the floor and also lives his life in a way in which I hope all parents if not most parents would want their kids to see. We rant and rave about these “superstars” who do amazing things on the court or the playing field but then live lives of indiscretion of the court and get away with it (most of the time).

    Finally, Jimmer did something to college basketball that hadnt been done in a long time: He brought class and he brought a style that has not been seen in a long long time. Think about it: He is known by his first name only around then nation, people have come up with “Jimmerisms” from different sayings in pop culture and biblical culture alike, Jimmer had a rap song made about him (Teach Me How to Jimmer, #61 on the Top 100 charts right now), Jimmer brought POSITIVE notoriety to a mid-major school, he had the nation waiting to see what he would do next. When you can do that as a college kid, that’s special. And considering he has made more appearances on Sportscenter’s Top 10 and other ESPN programs through interviews and short documentaries (which have only brought ESPN rating’s up I would suspect) and that ESPN’s people talk about him all the time and that he is way more mentioned than you are Mr. Reilly, I would think that JimmerMania has been well worth it. And I would also think that Jimmer has done something right. For once, some positive news in a world filled with negativity.

    I took the time to read your article. I even read it twice because I wanted to make sure I understood what I think you were saying. I would only hope that you would take the time to consider my perspective on it. Even if we don’t agree, our views can be respected. I respect what you say because it’s your opinion, however I wish that it could be construed in a more positive way. I am sure you might say that exact sentence to what I just wrote to you in the previous paragraphs.

  36. Rick Breilly permalink
    March 28, 2011 9:14 pm

    Let’s just all keep this in perspective: what is his job? Get readers and get attention. It’s all about the money and prestige. The more controversial the better. What’s the saying? No such thing as bad publicity? It’s up to the readers to recognize what it really is: a windbag taking a cheap shot at a successful athlete who is doing something poor old Rick could never even imagine doing himself. Note his authoritative prediction on the future of this lowly athlete! Think of how ridiculous it is for him to make any predictive statement at all about the kid! Too bad Ricky misses out on the moment of enjoying Jimmer for who he is now. Oh, well. Keep rocking Jimmer, you have millions of fans regardless of what happens from here on out! If you have a comment, send it to rickreillysucks@yahoo.com

  37. Prick Reilly permalink
    March 28, 2011 9:58 pm

    Who are you going to attack next ricky? You going after Jacob Pullen next? You’ll really make a name for yourself if attack his religion… and don’t forget to to attack his other attributes. When you’re finished, you can write a follow-up hate piece on Dick and Rick Hoyt. This piece on Jimmer just shows what how phoney and insincere all your prior pieces are.

  38. BYU fan from San Diego permalink
    March 28, 2011 10:21 pm

    Being a BYU fan and alumnus in San Diego has been thrilling this year. Jimmermania was not limited to Utah. All season the sports casters in San Diego reported on Jimmer and hoped the Aztecs would be ready to play him. It was a very good year for BYU fans. Thanks so much for giving us that excitement Jimmer and the rest of the Cougars. I am so proud of all of you, especially for everything that you stand for. You are definitely role models for our children.

    Rick Reilly doesn’t have a clue!

  39. March 29, 2011 12:34 am

    I am mormon and from Utah, and I completley agree with the Rick Reilly article. If Jimmer would stay with his man and box out, BYU would have been in the Elite 8 and who knows maybe farther.. He did carry them this season… But other players did not have a chance, any other team in the NCAA if they gave their star 30 shots a game would be just about as “spectacular” as Jimmer Fredette. I know he plays the whole game but the fact of the matter is in the closing minutes of the second half you give it your all you dont play lazy defense.. at the end of the game when BYU needed him most Jimmer was truly Dimmer

    • CHAD WIGGINS permalink
      March 29, 2011 2:48 am

      are you serious…….. you are not mormon, and you are not a byu fan moron… you’re a troll, simple and plain…… how do trolls find their way to even the most secluded sights…..

      • March 29, 2011 1:53 pm

        ummm.. I am mormon, Why are you worshiping Jimmer Fredette? This man has gotten mormons not acting like mormons.. They worship this man like a false idol, Freak out if someone has valid points and things to say about the man. If someone says anything bad they get hate mail? thats not right. All this Jimmer Fredette needs to stop. Every year there is a player exactly like him in the NCAA. Quite Frankly he was just this years Stephan Curry.

      • Krew permalink
        March 31, 2011 3:26 am

        I’m with Chad on this one. You might be a Mormon, but your also kind of a moron. You’re kind of missing the point here. It’s not that he doesn’t have the right to voice his opinion. He certainly does. But the way he did it was classless. He not only bagged directly on members of the LDS church, but he also bagged on anyone (LDS or not) that has any kind of value system. Then to top it off, he tears apart a young, classy, 21 year old kid good kid who has worked his ass off to get to where he is. It’s shameful that you would allow someone to walk all over you like this and not in the tiniest bit be offended. Grow a pair.

      • April 1, 2011 11:56 am

        You act like he meant what he said, you think he really cares about the stuff he said? no. He is a successful sports writer he knows the things to say to make mone. As for attacking a 21 year old.. that happens everyday in the sports world they know what they are getting into. Im sure Jimmer doesn’t even care.. this is the stuff that motivates him so it will only make him better.

  40. Matt permalink
    March 29, 2011 2:35 am

    First of all, you can’t get fired for voicing opinions about sports or players involved in them. Second of all, who cares? It is one mans opinion! If no one reacted and sent hate mail and cried foul after every paragraph, this would all blow over before it began. Let the man have his opinion, and keep your own.

    • CHAD WIGGINS permalink
      March 29, 2011 6:23 am

      he can have his opinion moron, but when he spits that retarded crap on the front page of espn…. well then he is subject to get his crap blown out of the water….. he gets to yap, but we dont get to respond when his yapping is beyond offensive…….

    • Apollo permalink
      March 29, 2011 5:41 pm

      Jimmy the Greek had an opinion, too. It was racist, and got him fired. Rick is a bigot. It should get him fired.

  41. Chris Marshall permalink
    March 29, 2011 7:57 am

    Rick Reilly who?????????

  42. David Warren permalink
    March 29, 2011 8:28 am

    Here’s the message I just left with ESPN.COM. . .

    Re: Rick Reilly’s Drunken Hatchet Job

    Was he drunk? That’s the only explanation I can come up with for Reilly’s hatchet job on Jimmer, BYU, and the Mormon church. The appalling lapses in fact-checking, ethics, and naked prejudice were unprecedented in a major sports publication. Yet, somehow, they were written, reviewed?, printed, and have remained on your web site now for days. I’m deeply disappointed in ESPN and will be watching closely to see what (if anything) is done about this – as a reflection on the rest of ESPN. Time to show what you’re made of.

  43. Brad Evans permalink
    March 29, 2011 9:29 am

    Kind of reminds me of Bryant “Gumball” back in 1984 with his comments about the BYU football team! Neither one of them knew what they were taking about and “Gumball” lost alot of credibility after his basisless comment, lets hope the same thing happens here! I know I for one will not read a the this over rated, over the hill hack has to say ever again. Maybe this will help ESPN.com realize that Reilly’s time as a hack is done!

  44. DAVE permalink
    March 29, 2011 11:34 am

    Here is his article bashing BYU in 2001.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2001/11/07/life_of_reilly/

    What’s his problem?

    This article was written when BYU was 13th and his Alma matter was 14th.

    It was written when his Alma matter was playing a pretty big game themselves. I guess he has his focus elsewhere.

  45. Josh permalink
    March 29, 2011 12:01 pm

    Who knows this guy and who reads him? Why waste time reading a shameless hack trying to bring himself out of writer obscurity? Like the mutt who proudly goes from house to house peeing on everyone’s fence posts, sooner or later the mutt gets run over by the garbage truck. Every dog has his day, let this yapper have his. Whether it’s today or some other day, some day Rick will reap his reward like the rest of us.

  46. Jckiwi permalink
    March 29, 2011 12:24 pm

    How about this – Pistol Pete averaged 37.7 shots per game the year of his 44 pt average! Remove 124 points from Jimmer for his three pointers and give Jimmer 37.7 shots per game (this year he shot 20.7 per game) and he scores over 46 points per game! Don’t remove the 3 pointers and account for the shot difference and Jimmer scores 52 points per game!

  47. Jim Hale permalink
    March 29, 2011 12:49 pm

    Let’s call a spade a spade. This was an ordinary, run-of-the-mill Mormon hater who happens to have a megaphone, taking aim at a target of opportunity.
    Please don’s say it isn’t so. Nothing could be more obvious. The man was clearly foaming at the mouth all the while.

  48. Jim Hale permalink
    March 29, 2011 12:51 pm

    If he had taken on a Catholic or a Baptist…or even a Muslim…with such vitriol….he would have already been fired.

  49. Jim Hale permalink
    March 29, 2011 12:57 pm

    Jckwi’s comparison to Pistol Pete (above) proves that Reilly is not just a bigot….he is incompetent at his (critically important?) craft.
    He took one shot at a great player….and missed the basket completely.
    Air ball.
    Why does he have that megaphone? He’ll never make it in the big game.

  50. Offended Fan permalink
    March 29, 2011 2:02 pm

    What ticks me off the most is that he rags on his religion and everything else about him. What give ANYBODY the right to bash ANYBODY about ANYTHING? Isn’t this somewhat of a hate crime? What was Rick thinking?

  51. delores permalink
    March 29, 2011 2:23 pm

    his name should be rick “the rapist” rielly

  52. Lia Anthony permalink
    March 29, 2011 2:41 pm

    You guys should stop reading Reilly and read “The Godmakers”.

    • March 29, 2011 2:51 pm

      We don’t all have to agree…but no bashing other people’s religion. I’m not Mormon myself, so I don’t have a vested interest, other than I don’t want that sort of petty, irrelevant name-calling here…especially when it has nothing to do with whether Jimmer plays well in the NBA.

    • March 29, 2011 6:24 pm

      Yeah that Godmakers thing is one of the best fiction novels every written. Talk about hateful and petty….not to mention incredibly inaccurate and intentionally misleading. Nice one Lia. Do wear a robe and hood on the weekends?

      Pathetic.

    • Krew permalink
      March 31, 2011 3:10 am

      Hahaha! Oh Lia.. Grow up.

  53. March 29, 2011 3:26 pm

    Lia Anthony- way to show your true colors. If you claim to be Christian start to act like one.

    It is obvious that your support for Rick Reilly and disdain for Fredette has nothing to do with Fredette’s actual merits or lack thereof, but your dislike for the LDS church. All you came here to do is to spew hatred and bash on another group of people’s beliefs.

    Try being nice to people for a change. You’ll be happier.

    From one California Christian to another – you need to repent of your hatred YESTERDAY and start treating everyone regardless of creed or belief civilly and just try being a good person. You are giving us other Christians a bad name.

  54. scott wallace permalink
    March 29, 2011 4:30 pm

    needs to be fired. Others have been for less than this.

  55. paul permalink
    March 29, 2011 7:09 pm

    Even better than being clutch is playing well the whole game. With the exception of the Fla game, Jimmer never needed to be clutch because he put games out of reach. All the close games (SDSU, utah the second time, UNM the third time, Gonzaga etc) were all close until he went on a personal 8-0 (or more) run to open it up and remove the need for a last second shot. You could call Howard from butler clutch for his last second heroics this tourney, but if he had scored more than 15 or 16 points, they wouldn’t have been necessary.

  56. Brig permalink
    March 30, 2011 12:54 am

    Check out Dan Patrick’s rant about Reilly’s garbage about Jimmer. Just google it. Awesome.

  57. March 30, 2011 10:41 am

    Reilly is a moron…he got what he wanted though…everyone talking about him

  58. Matt permalink
    March 30, 2011 11:30 am

    Nothing like reading an article by a person with an axe to grind against Mormons who thinks its not obvious that he has an axe to grind against Mormons.

  59. David permalink
    March 30, 2011 12:45 pm

    As an LDS member, I took no offense whatsoever at Reilly’s fairly tame jabs at our moral dedication, which is becoming more and more unique today. It seemed like pretty mild, good natured banter, and I think the overblown rage about it says a lot about the persecution complex to which many ferociously cling.

    Over the past week I thought the Fredette-Maravich comparison was wildly premature, so I thought Reilly’s take on that was appropriate, until I read Jckiwi’s post – good job on that one to put it in perspective. I also think Maravich was far, far more of a ball hog than Fredette, and that Fredette would have been happy with 20 points per game if his teammates would have made up the difference to win games.

    That Jimmer was unquestionably better than Ainge? Not so fast. They practically ended in a tie for points, and Ainge had no 3-point line. Ainge was the steals leader until Jackson Emery broke that record this year. Fredette has better range (really though – better than ANYONE), but overall Ainge was Fredette AND Emery all in one.

    Still, the Reilly piece was an unnecessarily mean-spirited, shallow, poorly researched hatchet job on Fredette. As mentioned by others commenters, other players have had worse games to end their college careers, including Nolan Smith this year, yet I’m not seeing the same kind of demeaning, beat-them-when-they’re-down story by anyone about them. It’s pathetically lopsided and does seem intended to knock him down because of some kind of predetermined, personal bias. His authoritative conclusion that Fredette will be a bust in the NBA is laughably premature and strongly implies his wishful thinking. Reilly must have some kind of psychological disorder to wish that upon a kid as skilled and decent as Fredette.

    • Bryce permalink
      March 31, 2011 6:55 pm

      in reply to David, really???? comparing Danny Ainge and Jimmer Fredette. I am so damn tired of hearing people compare old school (without 3 point line) to current players. I read an analysis that maravich would have averaged 55 with the 3 point line. There is one big problem with that analysis….there wasn’t a three point line!!!!! If there was then people would have started guarding him. Equally as ridiculous is comparing jackson emery and Jimmer’s three point percentage…..you can just look at the number….. or if your educated, and know anything about basketball and have played the sport you realize that 40 percent vs 39 percent can be very different stats. What would Jimmers percentage have been if he had ONLY shot open threes off of Emery penetration (Emery breaking down a defense is laughable, but play along) ; I think I saw Jimmer miss about 2-3 threes wide open at the three point line all year. Now imagine Jimmer has a legitimate post presence to enter the ball and get it on a kick out….yes Danny Ainge had that. Jimmer was unreal….. can’t compare him to any BYU player because he is better than all of them. As far as your take on Reilly and his badgering of Mormon Culture….you missed the boat…he is a sportswriter last I checked…not a politician, and not a comedian (although his work more resembles that). Your final words of skilled and DECENT???? Please clarify…..if you mean decent as a human being. then you must be pretty close with him….if you use the word decent in terms of basketball……WOW! you are is ignorant as Rick Reilly is

  60. Scotty permalink
    April 1, 2011 1:42 am

    What other NCAA player scored 32 points on his “off night” while being double teamed and missing 2 starters? Not to mention this was a sweet 16 game. Will he make it in the NBA? He looked pretty good driving the lane and making shots against guys who were twice his size (despite being fouled often – he made his free throws as always too). I think Jimmer’s stats on his “off-night” would be praised if they were put up by any other player in that tough of a situation.

    • Brad permalink
      April 1, 2011 2:35 am

      Totally agree on this one. What made me laugh was reading a news report on the game and one of the players or coaches said that they thought they had contained Jimmer pretty good. I thought, dang! 32 points and they think that? They must be thinking that since they held him to under 50 they did a good job “containing” him. LOL

  61. Brad permalink
    April 1, 2011 2:33 am

    No, everyone, you shouldn’t be emailing Rick with your displeasure. He won’t care and he will not be reading his emails. You should be emailing ESPN to get this jerk-face unemployed.

  62. April 1, 2011 2:15 pm

    People should go here if they want to complain about Reilly on a more prejudice(Fredette) or plagarism(Howard) level. It’s probably the best partial outlet related to ESPN.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?id=2826900

    • April 1, 2011 2:32 pm

      correction: “least partial”

  63. David permalink
    April 4, 2011 1:32 pm

    Wow. What a bunch of big babies you guys are. I read Reilly’s piece when it first came out and thought it was tough but honest. You MORMONS (little, sniveling, God lives on the planet Kolab) have a major chip on your shoulder. Someone comes and gives you some negative criticism and you completely freak out. Just think how you would react if everyone read, “No Man Knows My History.” Crawl back in your polygamist cave where you only hear great stuff about your cult.

  64. David permalink
    April 4, 2011 1:37 pm

    Reilly is totally right. You guys are acting like Jimmer played a great game. He took 29 shots and scored 32 points. He was 3-15 from three point range. Give Kemba Walker 29 shots a game and see how many points he scores. Give Williams from AZ 29 shots a game he would have 66 points.

    Reilly is solid. He is respected.

    You guys really believe in fantasy: like God and MORONi appearing in the woods to a kid and that you will get Reilly fired.

    • Dave Rubes permalink
      April 4, 2011 2:06 pm

      David – Your bias and dislike for the LDS church is what fuels your fire. Here are some games that Kemba played. Eat your heart out.

      UConn vs. Kentucky 7-20 (18 points)
      Uconn vs. Arizona 8-24 (20 points) – Williams (from AZ) was 7-19 with 20 points.
      Uconn vs. Cincy – 11-29 (33 points) – 29 shots – 33 points – sounds kind of like BYU vs. FL…
      Uconn vs. ND 13-29 (34 points – 29 shots – 34 points… wait is there a trend here?
      Uconn vs. West VA 12 -30 (22 points) 30 shots and 22 points!! 22!!
      Uconn vs. Marquette 16- 33 (27 points) 33 shots and 27 points!! 27!
      Uconn vs. St Johns 8-23 (15 points) again more shots taken than points scored.
      UConn vs. Cuse 4-20 (8 points) 4-20. Enough said
      Uconn vs. Louisville 9-33 (20 points)
      Uconn vs. ND 8-28 (19 points)
      Uconn vs. Pitt 13-38 (31 points) 38 shots 38! People call Jimmer a ball hog for shooting 29?

      I can do the same for Williams. Before you go running your mouth please check your facts. This is just a handful of games. I can do more if you like.

      We saw what Kemba would do if he took 38 shots. He got 31 points.

      Go BYU and Go Jimmer.

      People aren’t butt hurt about a bad article written about Jimmer – it was the manner and slant placed on it that was unprofessional. There is a difference.

      Katzs said that Jimmer’s defense was questionable and needed work if he was to play in the NBA successfully. No one said a peep. Bottom line is that Riley is white trash and if you want to stick with him be my guest. We can see how far that got you with the Kemba argument.

      • Dave Rubes permalink
        April 4, 2011 3:50 pm

        I miss read the stats it did seem a bit odd to me after I posted it. – it was counting FGA and 3pt attempts together.

        But at any rate – Uconn vs. Pitt Kemba was 10-27 and 3-11 from 3pt range. He scored 31 points.

        Not too different.

      • Dave Rubes permalink
        April 4, 2011 7:34 pm

        Some more with right stats

        Kemba vs. Texas – 8/27 with 22 points.
        Kemba vs. Louisville – 7/23 with 20 points
        Kemba vs. Marquette – 10/27 – 27 points
        Kemba vs. Pitt – 8/22 – 24 points
        Kemba vs. Pitt 10/27 – 31 points

        Same thing

  65. David permalink
    April 4, 2011 1:45 pm

    Reading some of the comments by the author crack me up. “Maybe Reilly faked all this anger….” You guys are the only ones who are angry. Reilly was telling it like it is an having fun. Isn’t Jimmer a grown man? Can’t he take some criticism? Also, where was the criticism for Jimmer’s BYU teammate? He really came out with a strong condemnation of Jimmer’s defense. Where was the criticism for him? I am guessing he is a cult member, in good standing (all dues paid in full) and therefore, of course, no one will criticize him.

  66. David permalink
    April 4, 2011 7:04 pm

    Hey Dave. I am dying I am laughing so hard. I need to stop so I can stop. LOLOLOLOLOL. Good research. I am sure Jimmer would give you a reach around if it were not a violation of the honor code.

    And you are right. Anyone who can think for themselves AND has spent time around the LDS liars (it is the simplest, most accurate word to describe your cult) usually has anger towards your phoney church.

    But I think I understand your mindset: when your WHOLE world is your cult, you have to protect it at all costs. After all you are protecting yourself by extension. So no worries. But I still laugh at you. I should throw out several more names so that you can spend your evening justify Jimmer’s superiority. LOLOLOLOL, Seriously, that is too funny that you did that!!

    • Dave Rubes permalink
      April 4, 2011 7:19 pm

      Keep talking, David. I admitted the mistake of the numbers I was posting almost immediately. It didn’t make sense and I can see the humor in that. But I don’t think in merits a ‘lol” in caps.

      But bottom line – the numbers were off but the fact remains the same. Kemba has had as many off nights as Jimmer where he was shooting just as bad.

      The difference is Jimmer’s off night is equal to most players’ career highs.
      Jimmer is the AP player of the year, the Naismith player of the year and he list goes on.

      Bottom line –
      You don’t offend me. Your comments make me “lol.” Glad I could make YOU “lol.” You need to cheer up! Life is too short to be angry!

      But I don’t think we are the sensitive ones here. You don’t find me going out to specifically find and try to rile up people of a certain group and talk smack. I think you should take your arguments and look in the mirror. Keep it to bball son.

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